home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- Date: Tue, 3 May 94 04:30:06 PDT
- From: Ham-Policy Mailing List and Newsgroup <ham-policy@ucsd.edu>
- Errors-To: Ham-Policy-Errors@UCSD.Edu
- Reply-To: Ham-Policy@UCSD.Edu
- Precedence: Bulk
- Subject: Ham-Policy Digest V94 #191
- To: Ham-Policy
-
-
- Ham-Policy Digest Tue, 3 May 94 Volume 94 : Issue 191
-
- Today's Topics:
- [News] FCC Gets New Weapon
- Canadian Rules
-
- Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Ham-Policy@UCSD.Edu>
- Send subscription requests to: <Ham-Policy-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu>
- Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu.
-
- Archives of past issues of the Ham-Policy Digest are available
- (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/ham-policy".
-
- We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 29 Apr 94 18:48:04 GMT
- From: agate!overload.lbl.gov!dog.ee.lbl.gov!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!amdahl!netcomsv!dodge!not-for-mail@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
- Subject: [News] FCC Gets New Weapon
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2pol93$qrp@paperboy.gsfc.nasa.gov>,
- Erich Franz Stocker <stocker@spso.gsfc.nasa.gov> wrote:
- >In article <phb.767540105@melpar> Paul H. Bock,
- >phb@syseng1.melpar.esys.com writes:
- >> IMHO, most hams who transgress do it *knowingly* and therefore
- >should
- >> be subjected to harsher penalties than the poor dweeb who's led astray
- >by
- >> the radio salesman. Maybe there should also be a penalty for the sales-
- >> man/dealer who doesn't *actively* inform his customers of the rules...
- >>
- >
- >IMHO this view is what is wrong with this country to a very large
- >measure. I don't know why someone else should be penalized for
- >your transgressions. It isn't the salesperson's responsibility to
- >ensure that you operate within the rules. It isn't his/her responsibility
- >to ensure that you know the rules. You have the legal responsibility
- >for finding out and complying with any transmission laws or
- >regulations. The salesperson just has a legal obligation not to
- >mislead you about the nature of the product or its use.
- >
- >This is the same garbage that they have done to bartenders. Holding
- >a bartender responsible for controlling the patron's drinking is
- >stupid. We are all, once again, going to have to take responsibility
- >for our own actions rather than finding others to blame.
-
- If we're taking a poll, I'm going to have to agree with Paul.
-
- I'm not sure where your coming from, Erich. And I'm not sure why you
- would use "IMHO", cause you really don't sound that humble. I think
- what's wrong with the whole world is because of people like you. In
- your reasoning, it must be perfectly acceptable to sell drugs, weopons,
- or anything else that could be used in an illegal or inhumane way. Hey,
- it's not your fault, your not the one who actually used the device or
- substance... People like that are driven by greed. All they think
- about is what they are going to gain. They have no conscience of what
- the other person is going to do or you may get hurt from it.
-
- Erich, do you think it would be alright to sell a gun to someone that
- you know will use it to rob a bank, or murder someone? What if they
- offered you a million dollars? You might be really tempted, but if you
- did then you would be condoning the actions of the other person. You
- should be held accountable to some degree for the crime, because you
- knew about it and went along with it.
-
- Let's get back to your example of a car salesman. Do you think a car
- dealer would let you test drive a car if you did not have a license?
- Now let's say that they knew but they let you test drive the car anyway.
- If you hit someone or ran over someone, who do you think the judge is
- going to hold responsible? Wouldn't you say that the dealer shared part
- of the blame since he knew you were doing something illegal and did
- nothing to stop you?
-
- Now how about that bartender. I have to tell you that I am dearly
- grateful for any and every bartender in the world that has prevented
- someone from getting killed by a drunk driver. Maybe that is the real
- problem, typically I'm sure that they get all the blame but none of the
- thanks for what they do. If a stupid idiot wants to drink to the point
- that they cannot drive, then they should do their drinking at home, not
- at a location where they will HAVE to drive to get home.
-
- Everyone should be held accountable for their actions including whatever
- they contribute to another person's actions. The problem is that there
- is no way to achieve complete justice in this system of things. We need
- God's government as expressed in the Lord's prayer to accomplish that...
-
- Sincerely yours,
- an advocate of God's Kingdom
-
- (All expressed opionions contained herein are mine and not necessarily
- shared by my employer.)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 2 May 94 22:42:15 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!falcon.bgsu.edu!bgsuvax!sdougla@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Canadian Rules
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- Can anyone tell me something about how the classes, priviliges and
- testing procedures for amateur radio work in Canada? Thank you.
-
- Thanx in advance
-
- -----------------------*********************----------------------------------
- Sean G. Douglas KB8IXP *************Internet: sdougla@andy.bgsu.edu
- Physics and Mathematics ******** LandLine: 419 372 6142
- SkyWarn Net Volunteer ******
- Amateur Radio Emergency Service *****
- Bowling Green State University ****
- Offenhauer East 1003 ***
- Bowling Green, Ohio 43403 **
-
- ------------------------------
-
- End of Ham-Policy Digest V94 #191
- ******************************
-